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## Turbines
#### High Speed Spindles
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#### Big fans of big RPMs
Electronic Spindles have a reasonable upper limit of ~40k RPM. This is related to motor inductance: at high speeds it becomes very difficult to switch coil currents fast enough to commutate the motor effectively.
As a tool's diameter decreases, the RPM required to maintain a reasonable surface speed increases radically. You can experiment with this variable with [this calculator](https://pub.pages.cba.mit.edu/feed_speeds/).
It's desireable to use very small endmills for PCB milling, or in Tool and Die manufacture, where something like an injection mold needs to have very fine surface finish.


While they're fast, they have limited total power. Although that hardly matters with such small endmills!
Air turbines are something of a rare tool, available from [Air Turbine Tools](http://www.airturbinetools.com/) and [Bryan Machine Services](http://bryanmachine.com/spindles/), among others.
However, they should be relatively easy to manufacture. There is one example of a very simple 3D Printed Turbine Spindle [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fj1gir4tJbU). These could be very easily made quite small, using compressed to drive the turbine, for a micro-machining or pcb machining center.